taiwan9 台灣酒

除了蘇主席外其他的扁謝呂都去吃屎
實在一肚子火

剩下二年多,不再努力就得再等50年
臺灣之敗家子.

和解共生?依娘列客兄公
只會對泛藍卑躬屈膝,真是看衰你
越說越氣,來去吃飯
shit ass!

來説說扁政府如何討好泛藍選民的

林義雄先生說的好
TVBS不關門,扁謝該辭職
林先生,您忘了,是扁賜給TVBS一面免死金牌的

We have no right to be sad and mad! Comparing to out father's generation, we are lucky. They were abrused by KMT for 50 years but we were not! No need to say more! we have to work harder! Raise our voice, force gov do somethings
1. Take care of TV bull shit and othre red media and news paper. By end of Dec. TVbull shit's lience should be suspended for good.

2. continue on economy reform. By end of 02/2006, all 18% interest rate should reform, unfair tax rate should be re-evaluated.

3. focus on education and educate our next generation about Taiwan Values. We can not accept any degree from China!

4. New constitution suitable for Taiwan's culture and meet people in Taiwan's need. This is the most important one. By end of 11/2006 we should see a new constitution.

If our gov sees resostance from Congress, The president should dismiss the congress and call for a re-election.

Dont give up. This is only half-time.
Taiwan GO GO GO

一天到晚打自己小孩給別人看, 這下子小孩離家出走了!!! 氣死人!

小孩的腳都被打瘸啦...><...

哈哈哈，「臺灣之敗家子」教人噴飯！

同意，TVBS 中資事件，那種「幫殺人犯戴安全帽」的作法，教人錯愕。

太多妥協，反而失去基本盤。

我寫了「民進黨該檢討些什麼？」小文一篇，請參考。

只希望蘇貞昌能出頭
林義雄先生能主持大局
謝長庭就不用了,他己失身了

2007年立委選舉,我相信咱會嬴,也相信很多人不要阿扁站臺

謝長廷太圓滑,也有點官屁----40分
蘇貞昌物實能幹,衝衝衝--------100分

這次民進黨輸了，卻要蘇貞昌負責，對他實在有欠公道，也太不公平！

我希望林義雄先輩，能再次出來當民進黨的主席，再次的來導正民進黨的方向。
而蘇貞昌來做行政院長！我想行政院這經歷，對他是否能成為民進黨2008的總統候選人是很重要的一關！這是最好的磨練，也是最能看出此人是否能夠中流砥柱，不畏立法院及媒體的親中的惡勢力。對蘇前主席會是最佳的考驗！

2007年立委選舉,我相信咱會嬴,也相信很多人不要阿扁站臺
Posted by lin at December 5,2005 09:55
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我是相信很多人不要阿扁站台了
但是2007年的立委我就沒這麼看好,原因是泛綠的龍頭阿扁已無法帶領整合
其餘的也還時機未臻成熟,況且目前台灣時機歹,立委會跟工程掛勾的選民也不會排斥,只要能造福他們票必投他,
台灣選民是沒有原則的-----柯賜海此次在花蓮拿了2萬零1百103票可證,怎麼說?

這次民進黨輸了，卻要蘇貞昌負責，對他實在有欠公道，也太不公平！
Posted by crunch at December 5,2005 13:50
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我想這次泛綠挫敗,大家應該不會怪罪蘇貞昌啦~他以在任民進黨主席未能輔選成功而負責下臺,這可能是歷任黨主席的默契與必然過程吧?

和解共生不對嗎? 全民共治不對嗎?

台灣是只有你們泛綠才可以住, 可以管嗎?

那請問你們跟專制有什麼不同?

那些跟你們不同意的是要去跳海峽嗎?

這位路過的!
我們在檢討並非說台灣只有泛綠的才可以住,才可以管!
你屁話連篇!這裡不歡迎這樣的人!可以滾了!
和解共生可行不會弄到現在~~立法院無一法案通過
可見這是行不通的!
你要去跳海峽沒人擋你!
去跳阿!這樣台灣會少了一個亂源~~米蟲!!!!

要是和解共生，全民共治行的通的話，那你們泛藍的，為什麼事事都杯葛？
立法院簡直就亂七八糟，民生法案無一條通過的！
台灣最大的亂源，就是泛藍所把持的立法院！

台灣的第二大亂源，就是由泛藍所把持的親中統派媒體！

好, 和解共生, 全民共治既是行不通的,

那請問你們要怎麼做?

選完了，輸都輸了，路還是要走下去的。
別氣餒，別放棄，大家加油！

飛飛說的對!
不能再哀傷下去了!
要打起精神囉!!!!

quote
"好, 和解共生, 全民共治既是行不通的,

那請問你們要怎麼做?
Posted by 路過 at December 7,2005 16:14"
End quote

well, well, well,
what are we going to do?
We will do nothing but vote!
We will vote for Taiwan, vote for the best person to lead Taiwan to become a normal country.
We will come back again, again and again
until we win the vote and kick pan blues' asses out of Taiwan.

By the way, what are you going to do? Can you educate us here?

"we win the vote and kick pan blues' asses out of Taiwan"

how to kick their asses out of Taiwan? it's ur idea, show me, please. u cannot do that just by voting, can u?

we live in taiwan together, and we won't kick anyone's ass out of here. that's what i would like to let u all know. taiwan is small and has few inhabitants. splitting inside won't make it stand well and in order. DPP government has no choice but to cooperate with the other sides. it's the only way. otherwise, just kick their asses out of taiwan. and u will see that ur asses would follow theirs, too.

Hi 路過,
It seems that there is something not right.
DPP likes to have a "和解共生, 全民共治" but pan blue does not!
Pan blue is the main reason for the failure of "和解共生, 全民共治"
On one of your post, you mentioned "好, 和解共生, 全民共治既是行不通的,那請問你們要怎麼做?
Posted by 路過 at December 7,2005 16:14"
on another you post, yop memtioned
"we live in taiwan together, and we won't kick anyone's ass out of here. that's what i would like to let u all know. taiwan is small and has few inhabitants. splitting inside won't make it stand well and in order. DPP government has no choice but to cooperate with the other sides. it's the only way."

In one hand you say "和解共生" is a failure and another hand you ask DDP to cooperate with other sides?" SO which one do you like to have?

Well, if majority of people back to Taiwan all vote for pan green. We can make a law for Chine lovers and fake Taiwaners. They are more than welcome to move to China and contribute their whatever to their conutry China.
Just like you said, Taiwan is small enough to have so many people does not love Taiwan.

"In one hand you say "和解共生" is a failure "

excuse me! that's not what i said. it was said by someone here who pissed off with that policy. i'm just asking them, if they do think that's a failure, what would be a better?

do u really think that by voting to gain the power to make the law against the pan blue can solve the problem? maybe u really do think so. but i had to tell u that u are wrong. as u can see the pan blue has already gain the power to make laws, however, they do not use that power to make such a law to against the pan green. i do not think that they do not want to do that, but they do not dare to do that! the majority of taiwanese won't say yes to that! u should learn to know ur people better. any against-who-law will leads to nothing but a civil war. and i do not think that after such a civil war, those who left could wage the following independence war.

u simply say that they do not love taiwan. that's a serious accuse, like treachery. but i will say that they love taiwan in a way different to urs. and i do not see how much u love taiwan. lip service, i suppose.

gain power via a democracy system (fair voating system) is the most inexpensive way to fix the problem thought it takes a very long time.
I did not say make a law to against pan blue.
I said "We can make a law for Chine lovers and fake Taiwaners. They are more than welcome to move to China and contribute their whatever to their conutry China." We can encourage those people to move to China rather than stay at Taiwan and do damage to Taiwan.
Maybe I am just doing my lip service here. At least no harm, I guess. Better than pan blue people back to Taiwan. They show no appreciation to our motherland.

By the way, you never tell us about your idea for the future of Taiwan. Educate us here. Please.

The Pan-Blue coalition is one that is associated with the ideal of China. In short, we do not want to be part of China. We would like to banish the Pan-Blue coalition from Taiwan just as we would like to relinquish all ties with China.

Since you are not my pupil, nor will you follow my instruction, I see no point to teach you any lesson.

However, in my opinion, Taiwan’s future lies on every Taiwanese, with colors. As I have said, a split country won’t stand. I don’t call them traitors as you did to them and they did to you. You are all my countrymen. I won’t allow you to expel them just as I won’t allow them to do that.

Any new constitution will still have to protect anyone’s rights, that’s beyond doubt. If it failed to do so, there will surely be a civil war. I don’t want to see that we killing each other. So you can look forward to a new constitution, but it should be based on cooperation not expelling others.

算了,就是教笨兒子也不用這麼累,"和解共生"是失敗的

新憲制定也比破舊不實的老憲法好,,但要看"何人"制憲?
在泛藍己漸成泛紅之時,我也不期望能制出一部適合台灣的憲法

你看我的理念偏激?因我是看泛藍的行為偏離

ps.路過人,,別太自大,如果你覺得人家不順你,不如你順我.ha

簡單的說
泛藍不除台灣不安!

To 23320

Don’t jump into conclusion, alright?

“In short, we do not want to be part of China. We would like to banish the Pan-Blue coalition from Taiwan just as we would like to relinquish all ties with China”

Nor do I want to be ruled by China. But may I ask you a serious question? Can you name all the ties you want to cut off with China?

“如果你覺得人家不順你,不如你順我”

You have got the point. You want them to follow your idea. And they want you to follow theirs, too. That leads to a confliction. In a democratic country, we do that by voting. However, that doesn’t mean that the winner can expel the loser. For example, they could expel you, too. Will you accept that? I don’t think so. If you won’t accept that, how could you expect them to accept that?

“泛藍不除台灣不安!”

This leads to my first question. How to do that? I was told that it will be done by voting, making new laws, and making new constitution. But I don’t think so, seeing that all of them have failed. What would you do to do that? Show me, please.

路過：

我想問你，你同意國親兩黨現在的一些作為嗎：

1）變賣黨產
2）連共制台
3）一國兩制

請你回答我，謝謝！

台灣國內的事，不需要你這個支那鬼子來插嘴，滾！

IP: 61.189.199.130

Firstly, in resemblance to the Cuban Missile Crisis, China has placed approximately seven hundred aimed at Taiwan. Thus, I feel as if China is a threatening force that has to immediately be dealt with. It is an endangerment to our life and liberty which we hold so dearly. Secondly, my opinion stands that the Pan-Blue coalition is beginning to show bias towards the Pan-Red coalition. Soon, they may be assimilated into each other in order to overpower the Pan-Green coalition to impose their dictatorial ways. I desire to weaken the Pan-Blue coalition to prevent this from happening. To do so, I feel that it is necessary, if possible, to cut its ties from the media.(中時,聯合,TVBS....)
I hope to enlighten people in this forum by using Chinese characters in order to allow more people to better understand the situation.

刪，就這點本事？
Posted by lee

刪就刪,你這土匪以為這是你家???

此版即日起，嚴禁支那鬼子發言，來者一律刪！
這裡是台灣酒會員的家，規範就由我們定！

支那鬼子，滾！

稱呼家叫自閉? 你的腦袋長在屁股?

你是支那人?
來來來,屁股給我蓋章

1）變賣黨產: 這牽涉到的該只有國民黨. 親民黨諒無此一問題. 變賣黨產其實並無不當之處. 重點在於其黨產取得之正當性. 然而在當年黨國一體之情形下, 現在對此正當取得之釐清實在確實相當複雜及困難. 我們現在可以看到類似國產局之類單位早有列出一些黨產是國產. 那理應歸還國家. 這點就國民黨而言亦無異議. 國民黨亦已有歸還部份, 當然亦有部份仍有爭執. 然而處理此事, 當仍續就法理層面來持續追討, 而非選前才來展現決心魄力. 選後卻又無疾而終.
2）連共制台: 不過是個政治花招. 跟中共聯美制俄, 聯俄制美一樣. 這不過是策略運用. 相同的策略屢見不鮮. 無傷大雅, 亦無需嚴重看待. 究其實, 若交出台灣, 那國民黨還能跟共產黨玩個屁?要玩牌, 不能沒有本錢. 君不見, 老共不也抗議我們聯美日制共?
3）一國兩制: 同樣是個幌子. 當年叫做特別自治區. 遠例西藏, 近譬香港. 千萬信不得. 即使國民黨也不可能接受此一提議. 就算要統一, 那也該是類似歐洲邦聯或美國聯邦制..老共目前對此並不能接受, 那就大家耗著吧.


“in resemblance to the Cuban Missile Crisis”
You should reconsider who should be the Cuba and the U.S. Cuba is also under the U.S.’s threat just like Taiwan under China’s. And you can see after years of economical embargo, how poor and wrecked Cuba has become. The U.S. can do that even without any missile launched! Years later, if China is getting strong enough, it can do that to us too. Missiles are useless.

We have no choice but to deal with China, that’s right, not to cut off any ties with it. This brings us to our most important principle: we have to talk. But who can do that? China does not believe DPP members, and shows no interest in talking with them. Who else can you send to deal with China? Doesn’t the pan-blue appear to have a good use on this?

Will the pan-blue turn to be the pan-red? I do not think so. There is a fundamental difference between them. As you see, the communists just wouldn’t share powers and benefits with them, as the pan-blue used to be. Why should they give up all the powers and benefits they already have? Yes, you may criticize me as too optimistic. But as you might notice, that only few of them dare say they want to be united by China. This worries China much, as it noticed that most of us, although not supporting independence, are not supporting unification too.

There is no stage for any dictator in Taiwan. Taiwanese is quiet used to protest and say no. No dictator could survive. I do not see any need to ban any media. Journalists only love scandals, just like hunters. Whoever standing high would be the one got the shot. Before the pan-green got the power, KMT got shot a lot, remember?

To 路過：

1）台灣是個民主法治的國家，一切依法行政，請問你知不知道，不當黨產處理條例，在立法院，被國親兩黨阻擋了幾次？
國民黨有意願還的話，為何要檔？民進黨政府，如果是以民粹的方式處理的話，早就要回來了！
2）你說支那政府，不抗議台灣連美日制共？請問你能代表支那政府發言嗎？如果不能，我認為你這有點睜眼說瞎話。
支那政府如果不抗議的話，那為什麼要用那麼多的飛彈對著台灣，而且每年增加70顆？
為什麼要反對台灣軍購，而國親又跟著一起反對？這不是連共制台，那是什麼？

3）沒有一國兩制？那為什麼馬英九所管的台北市所辦的活動，可以有支那五星旗，卻不能有台灣人拿中華民國的國旗出現？
國親兩黨的主席和立委團到支那時，中華民國的國號，還有國旗，都到哪去啦？
為什麼不敢喊出來？ 不敢拿出來？他們這不是接受了一國兩制，那又是什麼？
聰明睿智的馬市長，還會說香港市民，也是我國的國民，請問香港歸我們管嗎？
香港人可以投票選台灣總統嗎？這次的三合一選舉，有選香港市長或特首嗎？
馬主席的心態，不是表明了一國兩制，那又是什麼？

These past few arguments have been very interesting, and they all try to prove their own specific points. However, I hope to clear up some discrepancies first.
Firstly, no one would ever feel comfortable if any missiles were pointed at them. This does not appear to be a sign of peace. Rather, it appears to be a threat, or a way to quell threats, or it may be a way to suppress any insurrections against it by showing brute force. The U.S. economic embargo on Cuba was in a sense a statement against the Communist regime that formed there. The Americans were fully against Communism and viewed them as a threat. The Americans may have the full ability to invade Cuba any time it pleases, but it is a peaceful nation that knows how to control its power by means of passive resistance, as seen by the embargo. The Americans did not launch a direct threat or at least creating the façade of one by using missiles, as China is so clearly doing.
In relations with China, I believe an Olive Branch is called for. However, by the same token, I also believe that since all attempts at the Olive Branch have been rejected, a declaration of independence is called for. Peace talks with China are still open. However, unless we are recognized as a separate entity, peace talks can not resume. Under current conditions, Taiwan would most probably become a subordinate sector of China living in virtual exile, always being taken advantage of and treated badly due to its past actions. If we go back now, things will be worse off than they are now. If China ever regained control of Taiwan, a dictator may not appear. However, an authoritarian and Communist regime would replace its democracy, which it holds so dear with its liberty. The media is predominately controlled by China, therefore, its views are biased towards its cause,最後請路過大大別忘了"國共本一家". and I'm Taiwanese ,always.多謝你那篇很令人回味的文章.

1）”不當黨產處理條例，在立法院，被國親兩黨阻擋了幾次？”
這一點要分兩處來說. 首先是黨國一體時造成的正當性, 現在是否皆要改列為不正當? 如此做的合法性及範圍何在? 其次是列為不正當之後, 其相關及之後衍生而來的黨產應如何處理? 依目前要追溯既往若干年的態勢, 這個條例一旦通過, 對國民黨無異是剝皮拆骨, 退此一步即無死所的結果. 它能不擋嗎?
2）”你說支那政府，不抗議台灣連美日制共？”
這點我相信是你看漏了: 中共 ”不也” 抗議我們聯美日制共? 國親反軍購有個重點, 東西是否合乎我們的需求及是否買貴? 就這點來看, 我們反軍購反的有理. 但也不能排除一個可能性, 國親想把這個留到自己執政時再用.
3）”沒有一國兩制？”
簡單的說, 今日我們幾時是奉中共之命而行政了? 我們既不奉中共號令, 那何來一國兩制之實施? 至於你所提的那些. 當然他們夠種的話可以在中共的地盤提, 只是結果是被人轟回來, 還是裝在罐子裏回來, 那可不得而知了. 但這對於我們要跟對方溝通的需求並無助益. 最明顯的是民進黨諸公就連他們的大門都邁不進去. 馬英九那次教訓夠他受的了. 現在再來一次, 你看他敢不敢?

I agree with you that it is not comfortable to be threatened. However, I do not think that’s a good idea to face such a threat just by cutting off all ties with China and evoking irritative issues. That simply leads to a war without turning back. Since the war is not desirable to us, China, Japan, and the U.S., it does make sense for the U.S. to suppress us from doing that.

The U.S. had adopted a lot of other means to against Cuba, not only embargo. It had sent assassins and funded Cuban guerilla trying to overthrown its government. To state my point clearly, a modern warfare is no longer limited to military actions or conflicts. Economical embargo is also a very effective and powerful way to strike ones opponent. Take Iraq for example, most of Iraq’s tanks were out of order for lacking maintenance and a lot of Iraq’s children failed to grow up due to lacking of food and medicine. It seemed to be a peaceful way, but actually it was horrible and even worse than missiles. And the U.S. does have missiles aimed at Cuba too, with nuclear warheads. Besides, the U.S. did invade its neighbors: Cuba, Panama, Guatemala, etc.
http://140.112.2.84/~yang/paper-7.htm
http://www.geocities.com/oyaos/wa11.htm
Peace talks should bring up compromises and understandings. And most important is it cost time. It should not be given up simply because our opponent does not take our deal. Anyway, it takes time to make them change and make ourselves change. There is no need to be in a hurry. China at the mean time won’t accept Taiwan’s declaration of independence. Such a declaration would never be an olive twig to them. On the contrary, a war drum.

"國共本一家". I see your point. But in a mountain, there is always no more room for another tiger. People sharing the same features just can not flock together.

To 路過：

首先，我更正我剛才寫的第二點，那我要請教你：

台灣聯美日制共是為求生存反併吞反專制,國親的聯共制台則如張榮恭所自白是赤裸裸只為奪回政權,台灣的生存與國民黨的一黨之私何者為重？

To 路過：

1）你既然說要就法理層面來持續追討黨產,國親在國會是多數又是"條例一旦通過, 對國民黨無異是剝皮拆骨, 退此一步即無死所的結果. 它能不擋嗎 "？
那我請問 要如何就法理層面來持續追討？

2）就你說的第三點,請問,如果我要求你, 要來我家必需脫光衣服才能進來,一般正常人是不會這樣作賤自己的,是以民進黨諸公為維護台灣主權尊嚴連中國大門都邁不進去又何妨？ 他們豈不比國親有骨氣!

3）再請問,兩國談判是不是應該地位對等？ 現在中共對台灣是對等談判嗎？ 為了怕被人轟回來, 還是裝在罐子裏回來,就可以自作賤脫光衣服去朝拜嗎？ 對不 起! 有台灣心台灣情的台灣人沒這麼下賤!

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"國共本一家". I see your point. But in a mountain, there is always no more room for another tiger. People sharing the same features just can not flock together.Posted by 路過 ------------------------------------------------------------------
你的一山不容二虎真該去形容國親合併之事
我們轉個話題,你認為可行?老宋想法如何?小馬真的敢與大內高手過招?

這次的輸,個人覺得輸的好
提早反省更正,不然2007立委,2008總統,任何一邊輸那可真的慘重

輸的好,,加油泛綠,台灣加油

“台灣聯美日制共””國親的聯共制台”
我想我一開始就說了, 這不過是種策略. 國民黨不拿回政權的話, 在野的它又能做什麼? 別忘了只有執政黨有權力決定要做什麼? 及要如何做? 以此觀之, 它既無實權決定做什麼, 跟老共談的再怎麼天花亂墬, 也不過是信口開河的空頭支票. 掉掉槍花罷了. 要說制台賣台? 未免太看得起他們了. 東西根本不在他手上, 他要賣什麼? 等東西真到他手上了, 他敢賣敢亂動才怪.

1）”要如何就法理層面來持續追討？”
這個問題就繫於追溯期及之後的相關處理. 要如何去界定黨國一體的正當性? 總不能一路推到底全部都是不正當吧. 那把國民黨直接抄家了還比較快. 這就是需要協商界定的地方. 總要留條活路給他走, 他才會肯配合啊.

3）”兩國談判是不是應該地位對等？”
基本上, 對方目前根本不當我們是另一個國家. 所以它絕對不可能跟我們以兩國地位對等的談. 這跟一般兩個國家的談判有相當大的出入. 也因此特殊而複雜. 比較可行的是在第三地, 由雙方的代表去談. 如果你一定要對方以國對國談判的地位來談, 那也等於是叫他脫光了過來. 如果雙方存在著這麼大的歧見, 那最多就是耗著不談. 如果台獨是唯一的選項, 那也沒有談的必要. 若是要談, 就必須要各退一步. 將部份議題暫時當作沒看到. 而穿梭在之間的中間人則負責了傳話的功用. 然而由於總是有人不滿意談出來的結果, 當中間人的或是答應談判結果的, 都難免會被罵到臭頭, 甚至兩面不是人. 昨天看了一篇以巴談判的舊文, 雙方代表在挪威談了很久, 終於有個原則簽定讓巴人有自治區. 不過, 拉賓後來就被鷹派刺殺了, 而迄今以巴衝突仍是不止. 談判真是漫漫長路啊.

“國親合併之事”
勢在必行. 老宋已無舞台. 成全後輩是他唯一能做的事了. 就看他自己想不想的開了.

”這次的輸,個人覺得輸的好提早反省更正”
沒錯, 真的是輸的好. 這不是說風涼話, 而是雙方都該有的警覺. 畢竟我們選舉不是讓他們去輪流貪污的. 希望我們的政黨輪替能是互相比較求進步. 這樣才是全民之福. 至於是誰執政? 我只願是賢能者執政.

在此打擾良久, 所幸討論也還算歡洽. 就此作別啦.

To 路過：

怎麼要走啦？請便，不送了！
寫好了說～既然寫了還是貼吧

“台灣聯美日制共””國親的聯共制台”
國民黨不在野能做的可多啦！所有能扯後腿的事都做盡了！請問，美蘇冷戰時期美國在共和黨主政時，在野的民主黨怎麼不來個“聯蘇制美”的策略好奪回政權好能做些什麼？再者，政府有授權國民黨去跟老共談嗎？沒有！請問，連戰去搞什麼“胡連聲明”？這是在野黨可以做的事嗎？信口開河的空頭支票？如果2008國民黨取得政權，老共要國民黨兌現支票，國民黨可以說那是信口開河的空頭支票嗎？原來老兄對政治的常識如此而已？

1）”要如何就法理層面來持續追討？”
你到底看過行政院的法案沒有？請搞清楚！不願協商的是國民黨！你說對了！早應該把國民黨抄家！台灣人太厚道了！國民黨對不義黨產的處理方式只有四個字“無賴、無恥”！

3）”兩國談判是不是應該地位對等？”
"對方目前根本不當我們是另一個國家. 所以它絕對不可能跟我們以兩國地位對等的談"，所以就應該自我矮化去媚共？所以五星旗可以光明正大在台灣飄揚，中華民國國旗碰到五星旗要自動消失？在台灣首都台北市的巨蛋，為什麼民眾不准拿自己的國旗？請告訴我為什麼？我好回答我們家的小朋友！我懷疑你拿的是中華人民共和國的身分證！所謂"地位對等"白話就是雙方都穿著衣服談，懂嗎？"要談，就必須要各退一步"，是嗎？我怎麼只看到你一直要求台灣要讓步，民進黨要讓步，國親跟老共至今都沒讓步！我怎麼沒看到你堅持要國親也讓步？堅持要老共也讓步？你舉"以巴談判"的例子想暗示什麼？你想說老共那個傢伙讓台灣建國就會被暗殺是吧？什麼心態就會找什麼例子！不足為奇！

這位路過網友,很佩服你見識
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