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由四十五分三十五秒開始，美國國務院真像是個可悲的鳥園，主其事者是鴕鳥，不敢面對台灣民主的現狀，而發言人根本就是個鸚鵡，只會重複念稿子。

對話內容、翻譯與我的註解如下：

QUESTION: Sean, President Chen Shui-bian of Taiwan has spoken of plans to conduct a referendum on whether or not Taiwan should join the UN under the name of Taiwan.
SEAN，台灣總統陳水扁表示計畫舉辦以台灣名義加入聯合國的公投。

MR. MCCORMACK: Right.
是的。

QUESTION: An official in this building gave some background comments yesterday and I'm wondering whether or not you have anything on the record for us.
在這棟建築物辦公的官員昨天有一些背景發言，你有任何正式發言嗎？

MR. MCCORMACK: Sure, I have something for you. We support Taiwan's inclusion, as appropriate, in international organizations that do not require statehood for membership. Consistent with our one China policy, we do not support Taiwan's membership in international organizations that require statehood, including the United Nations.
當然，我有一些。

酥餅：開始看稿照念。

我們支持台灣適當的加入不需要國家主權的國際組織，與我們的一中政策相符，我們不支持台灣成為需要國家主權的國際組織的會員國，包括聯合國。

The United States opposes any initiative that appears designed to change Taiwan's status unilaterally. This would include a referendum on whether to apply to the United Nations under the name Taiwan. While such a referendum would have no practical impact on Taiwan's UN status, it would increase tensions in the Taiwan Strait. Maintenance of peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait is of vital interest to the people of Taiwan and serves U.S. security interests as well. Moreover, such a move would appear to run counter to President Chen's repeated commitments to President Bush and the international community. We urge President Chen to exercise leadership by rejecting such a proposed referendum.
美國反對任何將單方面改變台灣現狀的設計，包括是否以台灣名義加入聯合國的公投，雖然這樣的公投不會改變台灣在聯合國的資格，但是將會增加台海兩岸的緊張，台海兩岸的和平穩定符合台灣人民與美國安全的利益。另外，這個舉動看起來違反陳總統對布希總統與國際社會的承諾，我們懇請陳總統發揮領導力否決這個提議。

酥餅：中國在世界動物組織逼迫台灣改名，與WHO簽訂密約出賣台灣利益是不是單方面改變現狀？每天增加對台灣的飛彈並揚言以武力解決有沒有違背對美國與國際社會的承諾？美國國務院眼睛瞎了嗎？公投是人民的基本權力，美國憑什麼不贊成？這樣的美國有資格說自己是民主國家嗎？還要到全世界推行民主，不要以為台灣非親美不可，美國在亞洲除了台灣跟日本還有什麼朋友？國務院再這樣漠視現實下去，等到哪天反共基地台灣變成反美基地台灣的時候再後悔就來不及了。

另外，台灣關係法怎麼不見了？美國國務院想幹違法的事嗎？

QUESTION: Could I follow up? A quick follow-up.
我可以繼續問嗎？

MR. MCCORMACK: Sure.
當然。

QUESTION: Sean, Taiwan is a democracy and 80 percent of the people in Taiwan support Taiwan's membership in the UN. And President Chen is obviously reacting to public demand. What is wrong with that?
台灣是個民主國家，百分之八十的台灣人民支持加入聯合國，陳總統顯然只是回應人民的需要，這樣有什麼錯？

MR. MCCORMACK: I can read this to you again -- (laughter) -- if you want me to. But I would refer to you what I -- the answer I just gave you.
如果你要的話我可以把我剛講的再讀一次。

酥餅：鸚鵡發言人，這個問題是整個問題的核心，國務院顯然不知如何回答，不敢公開反民主，但是又不知道如何面對民主，有這種發言人與國務院真是美國之恥。

QUESTION: Can I -- can I follow up? There are some in Taiwan and elsewhere that say that there are some UN agencies that it would behoove Taiwan to be a part of because it involves cooperation in the international system and you need Taiwan's help, such as with avian flu or SAARS or other economic types of things where the fact that Taiwan is not a member kind of hurts international cooperation as a whole.
我可以繼續問嗎？台灣國內與其他地方都有人表示有些聯合國組織需要台灣在國際系統中的配合與幫忙，比如說禽流感、SARS與其他經濟相關方面，台灣不是會員的事實傷害國際整體合作。

MR. MCCORMACK: I'm going to refer you to paragraph one of what I read. I'll repeat it. We support Taiwan's inclusion, as appropriate, in international organizations that do not require statehood for membership. Consistent with our one China policy, we do not support Taiwan's membership in international organizations that require statehood, including the United Nations.
我將重複讀我講過的答案，我們支持台灣適當的加入不需要國家主權的國際組織，與我們的一中政策相符，我們不支持台灣成為需要國家主權的國際組織的會員國，包括聯合國。

酥餅：繼續當鸚鵡，美國國務院打算用這種方法迴避問題多久？一中政策的前提：「兩岸人民都認為只有一個中國，台灣是中國的一部份」已經改變了，而且不是任何個人去改變它，而是民主台灣的民意改變了它，花幾千億美金攻打伊拉克號稱要推行民主的美國政府，竟然有如此懼怕民主的國務院，看來，美國國務院像是個鳥園，主其事者是不敢面對台灣民主現況的鴕鳥，發言人是鸚鵡。

QUESTION: Well, I mean, so are you willing to forsake issues of international stability to make a point that Taiwan is not a state? I mean, what about instances where statehood is required for membership but cooperation from Taiwan would be vital?
所以你願意犧牲維持國際穩定的議題去強調台灣不是一個國家？我的意思是，那些既需要主權國家資格，又需要台灣合作的組織怎麼辦？

MR. MCCORMACK: I can read it to you again, if you like.
我可以把剛剛的再讀一次，如果你喜歡的話。

酥餅：無法面對問題的死鸚鵡。

QUESTION: No, that won't be necessary. Thank you.
不需要，謝謝。

QUESTION: Excuse me. Other then WHO, which I think is the example that most people are familiar with, what other organizations are there -- UN agencies?
除了大家都熟悉的WHO之外還有什麼其他組織？聯合國附屬組織？

MR. MCCORMACK: I don't have anything to the answer I've given.
我沒有答案。

QUESTION: Thank you.
謝謝。

QUESTION: China's Vice Foreign Minister Dai Bingguo would participate -- U.S.-China Senior Dialogue with Deputy Secretary Wednesday and Thursday. Yesterday, the State Department put out announcement, say they were -- they may discuss North Korea and Sudan. I'm just wondering if Taiwan -- the referendum campaign or the general Cross-Strait issues was on the agenda.
中國副外交部長Dai Bingguo禮拜三、四將參與中美高層對話與副國務卿會談，昨天國務院表示他們將討論北韓與蘇丹的問題，我很好奇台灣公投的議題將會在議程中嗎？

酥餅：每次都這樣，一與中國會談就打台灣給中國看，但是美國這幾年來在北韓與蘇丹問題上有從中國得到任何幫助嗎？根本沒有，國務院這批人對中國的瞭解與能力真是差到不行，難怪布希政府會被人看不起。

MR. MCCORMACK: I can't tell you. I'm sure that the Chinese side will likely bring it up, and we'll let you know if they do.
我不能告訴你，不過我很確定中國很可能提及，如果他們提起，我會告訴你。

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