June 19,2008
標準在哪裡啊T_T
以下是女人的心聲,男人看了若不爽,我也不付責任:P
一大早來,F4就在聊辛辣話題了(請見討論串:BabyHome相關討論)
對話如下↓
611:厚!昨天看那個麻辣XX宮!!請那些什麼未婚生子、青少女懷孕的上節目的blah blah blah~~~(os: 那種節目看都看不下去了,拜託妳不要還一直描述…)
嫂嫂:厚!那個真的是很受不了耶!這樣叫我們以後要如何教小孩啊!(os:就學瑪丹娜不給小孩看電視)
612:對啊!婚前不能有性行為真的很難教耶!!(os:怎麼突然變成不要婚前性行為?)
611:而且那個下面還有標題,打什麼青少女媽媽真偉大的ㄛ!妳看看妳看看!簡直道德淪喪啊~~!(os:這個不錯,有講到重點)
嫂嫂:所以啊!現在的媒體實在是太亂了!社會有很多亂象,就是從媒體來的!(os:那妳還看!)
611:就像政治其實也沒那麼亂,可是媒體就是一定要塑造出很不好的形象來破壞!真的很可惡啊!(os:選前不會講這種話,選後突然開竅會講這種話是怎樣啊…冏)
然後不知自己是否也憋太久,總之就跟著莫名其妙發火
之前EX還很興沖沖的跟我提起他的朋友:
EX:我跟你講喔~A君的女朋友懷孕了耶!
我:喔…
EX:他們本來要拿掉的,可是去照超音波的時候看到,就決定不拿掉,要結婚生下來。
我:干我啥事啊(火)!
EX:喔…(乖乖閉嘴)
基本上,除非有特殊情形(如被強暴),我都是反墮胎。
拿掉?很家常便飯嗎?很理所當然嗎?
尤其是從男人嘴裡說出墮胎兩個字,真的會讓我很抓狂。
而且他們最常說的藉口不外乎是:
A)如果沒那個金錢能力,就沒辦法生下來啊!
靠北膩,選擇不戴套的時候就是有金錢有能力,結果懷孕了變成沒金錢沒能力,是這樣喔??
B)有的時候真的是意外咩!
喔對~是意外~別人偷偷在套子上戳洞啦!
而女生又很怪異,遭受如此待遇,似乎也當做家常便飯,理所當然?
女生是否可想過,做一個有擔當負責任的男人,不是拿掉小孩或先有後婚,而是在性行為之前,那一個最簡單的動作--戴套!為他拿掉小孩,是在為他逃避責任嗎?反正妳都會拿掉小孩,他可以繼續為所欲為,不用顧慮到妳的感受及墮胎可能對身體造成的傷害?先有後婚的就更別說了,因為不會受到公婆(特別是婆婆)的尊重,可能連妳娘家的父母都會被人在背後說閒話!
想要先有後婚,很行嗎?
想要當青少女媽媽,很跟得上流行嗎?!
想要比墮胎誰多比較厲害嗎??!!
啊???


一大早來,F4就在聊辛辣話題了(請見討論串:BabyHome相關討論)
對話如下↓
611:厚!昨天看那個麻辣XX宮!!請那些什麼未婚生子、青少女懷孕的上節目的blah blah blah~~~(os: 那種節目看都看不下去了,拜託妳不要還一直描述…)
嫂嫂:厚!那個真的是很受不了耶!這樣叫我們以後要如何教小孩啊!(os:就學瑪丹娜不給小孩看電視)
612:對啊!婚前不能有性行為真的很難教耶!!(os:怎麼突然變成不要婚前性行為?)
611:而且那個下面還有標題,打什麼青少女媽媽真偉大的ㄛ!妳看看妳看看!簡直道德淪喪啊~~!(os:這個不錯,有講到重點)
嫂嫂:所以啊!現在的媒體實在是太亂了!社會有很多亂象,就是從媒體來的!(os:那妳還看!)
611:就像政治其實也沒那麼亂,可是媒體就是一定要塑造出很不好的形象來破壞!真的很可惡啊!(os:選前不會講這種話,選後突然開竅會講這種話是怎樣啊…冏)
然後不知自己是否也憋太久,總之就跟著莫名其妙發火

之前EX還很興沖沖的跟我提起他的朋友:
EX:我跟你講喔~A君的女朋友懷孕了耶!
我:喔…
EX:他們本來要拿掉的,可是去照超音波的時候看到,就決定不拿掉,要結婚生下來。
我:干我啥事啊(火)!
EX:喔…(乖乖閉嘴)
基本上,除非有特殊情形(如被強暴),我都是反墮胎。
拿掉?很家常便飯嗎?很理所當然嗎?
尤其是從男人嘴裡說出墮胎兩個字,真的會讓我很抓狂。
而且他們最常說的藉口不外乎是:
A)如果沒那個金錢能力,就沒辦法生下來啊!
靠北膩,選擇不戴套的時候就是有金錢有能力,結果懷孕了變成沒金錢沒能力,是這樣喔??
B)有的時候真的是意外咩!
喔對~是意外~別人偷偷在套子上戳洞啦!
而女生又很怪異,遭受如此待遇,似乎也當做家常便飯,理所當然?
女生是否可想過,做一個有擔當負責任的男人,不是拿掉小孩或先有後婚,而是在性行為之前,那一個最簡單的動作--戴套!為他拿掉小孩,是在為他逃避責任嗎?反正妳都會拿掉小孩,他可以繼續為所欲為,不用顧慮到妳的感受及墮胎可能對身體造成的傷害?先有後婚的就更別說了,因為不會受到公婆(特別是婆婆)的尊重,可能連妳娘家的父母都會被人在背後說閒話!
想要先有後婚,很行嗎?
想要當青少女媽媽,很跟得上流行嗎?!
想要比墮胎誰多比較厲害嗎??!!
啊???



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I thought I was gonna see something that I may be 不爽 because you said "以下是女人的心聲,男人看了若不爽,我也不付責任:P"
In fact, you are absolutely correct, not only asking a girl to go through the abortion is cruel, but also extremely cruel and unfair to a new life. However, I do partially agree with reason A, simply because I think if you can't even take your own responsibility to use a condom... how can you be responsible for a life?? Not too much to do with money, I think as long as you can provide your care to the kids, educate your kids with right attitude in life, I think they will be fine with or without being rich~
Posted by Joe
at June 19,2008 20:09
如果不用保險套
就叫他別做
叫他用手自己解決 = =
Posted by 芒果
at June 21,2008 23:03
Roto~
well, I'm infamous for being a female chauvinist..lol
When i look back at my late grandfather's life, i admire his courage and tenacity for life so so very much!
he lived through WWII, japan colonization, KMT regime, adapted to Taiwan's change from argricultural society to industrial society. Yes!! he had survived it all WITH 5 sons and 3 daughters!!
so every time when i hear someone (particularly a man) saying "oh~i can't afford having family and kids coz i lack the money," i'd talk back by saying, "is our society now in more poverity and hardship than that of our grandfather's age? if our grandparents and parents have survived it all, you should also just stop giving excuses for your irresponsibility=P"
芒果~
是唷..不是用蘿蔔腿狠狠踹他的重要部位一腳, 讓他永遠牢牢記住這個教訓嗎XDDD
Posted by PD
at June 23,2008 11:50
Wow, you must have a pretty big family then! But yeah, I think it all depends on whether or not you are willing to take responsibility.
Posted by Joe
at June 23,2008 19:30
麻辣XX宮節目不應該這樣的, 做了不良的示範...
Posted by aaabbb123
at June 23,2008 23:44
有些議題私下講沒問題
但是在電視節目
真的很不恰當
應該讓年輕人瞭解是
亂食禁果的後遺症
Posted by chihchun46
at June 24,2008 07:14
Joe,
ya, it's a pretty big family. i even have neices who are older than me or same age as me, coz there's a big age difference in the same generation. it's cool and a lot of fun=D
responsibility can be such a difficult word for the "strawberry generation":O
ab123,
以前看兩代電力公司覺得還好, 但是漸漸的發覺一些大學生真的談吐狠沒內容, 就沒繼續看..接下來跟流行的其他脫口秀節目 也都覺得沒啥內涵..(我還是比較懷念歐普拉秀=x=)
chihchun,
節目裡好像有個女生是墮胎三次的
她本來只想說一次的, 結果節目製作為了效果, 要求她必須全部說出來o_O
我覺得節目製作真的很沒衛生
但是女生本身也有很大問題
Posted by PD
at June 24,2008 09:45
>>ya, it's a pretty big family. i even have neices who are older than me or same age as me, coz there's a big age difference in the same generation. it's cool and a lot of fun=D
I do too, have rather big family. Your last name isn't Chen, is it???
>>responsibility can be such a difficult word for the "strawberry generation":O
I think it all depends, many of my friends are actually pretty responsible~
Posted by Joe
at June 24,2008 21:28
nope, I'm the Lee's family:O
so who knows! i might even be related to 唐太宗 according to the logic of KMT freak~XD
being responsible or not also has to do with how you're brought up in the family, the environment you're in, or sometimes even the friends you have, the ppl you're surrounded with;)
Posted by PD
at June 25,2008 10:32
Yes, absolutely, you become the person you are depends on the friends you hang out with~ Very true~ but I felt I am often the one that's affecting the people around me~ or I am just too full of myself~ =P
Posted by Joe
at June 25,2008 21:03
peer pressure is very important among friends. it's great to hear that you bring positive influence on your friends!! i wish i have positive friends too:)
but still, don't be too full of yourselfXD
Posted by PD
at June 27,2008 10:19
LOL! I will try not to be too full of myself~
Posted by Joe
at July 1,2008 02:35
^^!
Posted by PD
at July 1,2008 10:36
很有趣的心聲
有一部份的想法和我差不多
先有在婚的話題
中午休息時,也曾和同事聊過
辦公室的婆婆媽媽們
也都沒辦法接受他們的女兒先有在婚
他們說會瘋掉~
Posted by 小月
at July 1,2008 22:02
我有個同事是一男一女
她說 她絕對無法接受自己的女兒被先上車後補票
但是如果他的兒子的女朋友發生這樣的事情 她就會接受(儘管心裡不能同意 但是還是得接受)
我覺得她是很無奈的, 但是我還是跟她說了: 同樣都是父母親的女兒, 同樣都是父母親的掌上明珠, 今天妳不希望自己的女兒被如何對待, 也請教育自己的兒子不要這樣對待其他人的女兒!!
Posted by PD
at July 2,2008 09:50
This is exactly why I am afraid to have any daughter... I think I will worry sick ever since my daughter is born until the day I die... We simply can't change the fact that girls are more vulnerable and I know for sure all straight guys check out girls all the time... only if hormone can be stopped, or else girls will always be living in risks~
Posted by Joe
at July 2,2008 20:56
lol, you can totally read my mind!!
that's why i'm trying to get back to the invincible state i was in before i met any heartbreaking man..XD
i think it's unfair to say that all guys are bad, there must be good guys out there willing to take up responsibility to protect girls, and should know better that their girlfriend is also else's daughter. hum...but it's just so hard to meet a guy like this=(
Posted by PD
at July 3,2008 09:56
That's kind of true, but I think whether or not a guy is a great guy really depends on the ruler you use on him~ (I am not saying you should lower your standard~XD)
There are many great guys, but normally great guys don't really know how to talk to girls(especially face to face) I think~ and that's also why great guys are usually invisible~ Haha~
Posted by Joe
at July 3,2008 20:36
omg... so does one get a great guy to get rid of his shy personalityXD?
I AM trying to lower my standard...my friends keep on saying i must be living in my granny's age for tooooo long!!
So I am trying to lower my standard, but taking time to accept lower standrad is another thing!! and that's what I'm trying to do now..QoQ
Posted by PD
at July 4,2008 09:24
May I ask? What's your "Standard?" If you don't mind, try to be as specific as possible~ =)~
Personality, appearance, financial status, and etc.~
Posted by Joe
at July 7,2008 20:55
Joe,
I can smell blogs and blogs and blogs to write about~~XD
I'll see if I can squeeze something out by the end of the day. But I hope what I write won't offend guys and make myself sound like a man-eater..XDDDD
Posted by PD
at July 8,2008 09:45
Hahaha, man-eater~ I won't judge~ XP~
Posted by Joe
at July 8,2008 19:30