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July 18,2006

是“水雞”，抑是“水蛙”？

北仔話“蝌蚪”，番仔話叫做“ tadpole ”;ah 咱閩南所在 soah 有幾落種無共款的講法。阮祖家福建漳州龍海白水，阮白水鎮在地腔，是叫做/kap32 kuɛ35 a53/ ，隔壁海澄腔講號做/kap32 kuai35 a53/。用漢字寫，著是“蛤蛙仔”。

“蛙”、“花”、“瓜”，中古音佮現代閩南語音排比如下：






閩南語中古音
白水腔海澄腔
蛙/kuɛ35/ （白）
/ua35/ （文）		/kuai35/ （白）
/ua35/ （文）		影母麻韻假攝合口二等平聲［注1］
瓜/kuɛ35/ （白）
/kua35/ （文）		/kuai35/ （白）
/kua35/ （文）		見母麻韻假攝合口二等平聲
花/huɛ35/ （白）
/hua35/ （文）		/huai35/ （白）
/hua35/ （文）		曉母麻韻假攝合口二等平聲


頂頭即張表單， thèng 好證明/kap32 kuɛ35 （ kuai35 ） a53/著是“蛤蛙仔”。

逐个攏知影講“青蛙”是“蝌蚪”變的。“青蛙”，是北仔話，佇咱閩南話裡底， ôan-á 有儕儕種無共的腔口。“田蛤仔”（ chhân-kap-á ）啦、“水 ke ”啦，攏有儂講。

“水 ke ”的“ ke ”，漢字到底是“雞”？抑是“蛙”？眾儂看法無攏相 siâng 。咱今仔日，著 beh 寬寬仔(khoaⁿ-khoaⁿ-á)來 kā 拆解互清楚。

“ súi-ke ”是漳州腔。廈門、同安，是唸做“ súi-koe ”。 Kan-taⁿ 看即个對應關係，咱著知影講 hit-ê 字眼穩當呣是“蛙”。 Beh 安怎講咧？汝 kā 看，“蛙”字，咱頭拄仔已經有講過，伊的白話音，漳州唸做/kuɛ/佮/kuai/，照講，這是對應著廈門腔的/kue/，不而過，廈門 ná 像無讀/kue/，顛倒 soah hām 海澄腔共款讀做/kuai/。台灣有唸做/kue/，明顯是按漳州腔/kuɛ/變來的。

Nā 安呢，“ súi-ke （ súi-koe ）”到底是 beh 怎樣來寫咧？我講是“水雞”，呣是“水蛙”。咱講即字“雞”，泉州、廈門攏唸/kue/，漳州唸做/ke/，無唸做/kɛ/。所以，/sui ke/百分百呣是“水蛙”。根據咱的瞭解，中國有寡所在，嘛有將“青蛙”叫做“田雞”。這佫咔會當證明閩南語咧講的“ súi-ke （ súi-koe ）”，本字著是“水雞”。

注1：“蛙”字，有另外第二个中古音：影母佳韵蟹摄合口二等平声。這對應著閩南語的/kuai/。


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1. [âng-mûi]: 北仔話“蝌蚪”，番仔話叫做“ tadpole ”.
//“青蛙”，是北仔話，佇咱閩南話裡底， ôan-á 有儕儕種無共的腔口。“田蛤仔”（ chhân-kap-á ）啦、“水 ke ”啦，攏有儂講。//
呣通誤會, “田蛤仔” kah “水雞”” 是 2 種 完全 無共款 e “青蛙”/frog，
2a). [tshân-kauh-ah]: khah sùe-tsiah, pêr sik-tī khah khín, tshân le tsiâⁿ-tsuē, bô lâng lia̍h khiái tsia̍h.
2b). [súi-kue]: khah tuā-tsiah, khah tsió, pêr sik-tī khah tāng, koh ū hue-lī, pha̍k ta ē-sái tiuⁿ kó·. Bah ē tsia̍h eh.
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Lîm siah, gâu-tsá.
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Lin leh kong e "sui-koe" 水雞, khiam-chhai tioh si chit-chiong La-teng-bun hak-mia ho-choe: "Rana tigrina rugulosa", Eng-bun ho-choe "Chinese Bullfrog; edible frog" e phin-cheng. Iah na "chhan-kap-a" 田蛤仔 hoan-se tioh si hak-mia ho-choe "Rana limnocharis", Eng-bun "paddy frog" e phin-cheng. Koh na kong kau kah "chioh-kang" chek-e phin-cheng tioh khiam-chhai si hak-mia ho-choe "Rana spinosa", Eng-bun "giant spiny-chested frog".
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Hui sian, Jack sian,

Ti chek-liah e-toe u chit-koa kai-siau sui-koe e bang-ia, lai-bin u tak-e phin-cheng e siong-phinn, chiah chhiann lin lai tau-sann-kang ka in choe chit-e kam-cheng, khoann in si-m-si na-chhiunn E-lam-oe leh biau-sut e phin-cheng.

chiunn-chu
http://www.calacademy.org/research/herpetology/frogs/images/frogb.jpg

chhinn-ioh
http://www.geocities.com/slowloris9/amphibia/rhacopho/rhacopho.htm

Chiunn-chu 章磁 (Family Bufonidae; toads, 蟾蜍) kap Chhinn-ioh 青虳 (Family Rhacophoridae; tree frogs, 樹蛙) si siok-i u-tok e lng-e sui-koe-kho, in si boe-sai hou lang liah lai chia.


sui-koe
http://www.froghome.idv.tw/html/class_1/rana_rugulosa.html
http://www.tesri.gov.tw/content/wild/wild_amphibian_02_5_4.asp

chhan-kap-a
http://mdsesd.mds.com.tw/~kinmatsu/animal/frog-2.html
http://www.froghome.idv.tw/html/class_1/rana_limnocharis.html
http://www.chouchaiwetlandpark.tw/eco.php?cat=others

chioh-kang
http://www.arkive.org/species/GES/amphibians/Paa_spinosa/

Sui-koe 水雞(Rana tigrina rugulosa; Chinese Bullfrog; Edible Frog, 虎紋蛙), Chhan-kap-a 塍蛤仔(Rana limnocharis; Paddy Frog, 澤蛙) kap chioh-kang 石蝀(Rana spinosa; Giant Spiny-chested Frog, 棘胸蛙) si e-sai hou lang chia e phin-cheng.


chhân-kap-á 塍蛤仔, tshân-káu-ah 塍狗仔 kap chhân-káu 塍狗 eng-kai si E-mng, Tang-oann kap Liong-hai e bo-sang khiu-khau.
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“加味素”兄：互汝真努力（ló·-la̍t）！

即mái我瞭解ah，“塍蛤仔”著是“澤蛙”；“塍狗”著是普通話講的“田雞”，學名“虎皮蛙”。
http://www.tesri.gov.tw/content/wild/wild_amphibian_02_5_4.asp

“塍狗”佮“水雞”，應該是siâng一種蛤仔。
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