December 15,2007

Boston Red Sox Top 20 Prospects for 2008

小聯盟專家 John Sickels 在 http://www.minorleagueball.com/ 有一連串的系列,列出各隊的前廿名新秀。今天,紅襪的部份已經出來:

1: Clay Buchholz, RHP, Grade A

2: Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, Grade A-

3: Jed Lowrie, SS, Grade A- (too high? I think he's an A- as a shortstop, but a B+ as a second baseman. Will he stick at short?)


4: Lars Anderson, Grade B+ (a personal favorite, power should blossom)

5: Michael Bowden, RHP, Grade B

6: Justin Masterson, RHP, Grade B

7: Nick Hagadone, LHP, Grade B

8: Ryan Kalish, OF, Grade B

9: Will Middlebrooks, 3B-SS, Grade B-

10: Josh Reddick, OF, Grade B-  (overlooked prospect)

11: Oscar Tejeda, SS, Grade B-  (high praise for rookie ball guy)

12: Aaron Bates, 1B, Grade B- (maybe C+?)

13: Brandon Moss, OF, Grade C+

14: Craig Hansen, RHP, Grade C+

15: Dustin Richardson, LHP, Grade C+ (a personal favorite)

16: Reid Engel, OF, Grade C+

17: Yamaico Navarro, Grade C+

18: Ryan Dent, OF, Grade C+

19: Zach Daeges, OF, Grade C+ (maybe Grade C given Lancaster)

20: Bubba Bell, OF, Grade C

GRADES AND WHAT THEY MEAN

Grade A prospects are the elite. They have a good chance of becoming stars or superstars. Almost all Grade A prospects develop into major league regulars, if injuries or other problems don't intervene. Note that is a major "if" in some cases.

Grade B prospects have a good chance to enjoy successful careers. Some will develop into stars, some will not. Most end up spending several years in the majors, at the very least in a marginal role.

Grade C prospects are the most common type. These are guys who have something positive going for them, but who may have a question mark or three, or who are just too far away from the majors to get an accurate feel for. A few Grade C guys, especially at the lower levels, do develop into stars. Many end up as role players or bench guys. Some don't make it at all.

A major point to remember is that grades for pitchers do NOT correspond directly to grades for hitters. Many Grade A pitching prospects fail to develop, often due to injuries. Some Grade C pitching prospects turn out much better than expected.

Also note that there is diversity within each category. I'm a tough grader; Grade C+ is actually good praise coming from me, and some C+ prospects turn out very well indeed.

Finally, keep in mind that all grades are shorthand. You have to read the full comment in the book for my full opinion about a player, the letter grade only tells you so much. A Grade C prospect in rookie ball could end up being very impressive, while a Grade C prospect in Triple-A is likely just a future role player.

目前 Sickels 登出的球隊,除了紅襪,還有教士,老虎,紅人,天使,太空人,大都會,遊騎兵,國民,小熊,勇士,雙城,皇家。十三隊中,只有紅襪跟紅人有 A 級的新秀,還剛好各三個。像是一向以農場著名的天使,之前非常被看好的 Brandon Wood 現在只有 B+。之前被 BP 排在 future shock 第十一名的林哲瑄,則沒有受到 Sickels 的青睞。


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Engel Beltre甚至進不了Rangers的top 20(鬆了一口氣); Sickels的說法:
"But I do NOT understand all the love for Beltre. He's got tools out the wazoo, sure, but he also could barely clear .200 in the Gulf Coast League, and has major problems making contact. He has 75 strikeouts in 65 career games. He's a prospect, sure, but he is a LONG way away, and in my system that makes him a C+ type until the numbers start living up to the hype."
Posted by eric at December 15,2007 21:46
這樣幹爺的罪有少一點點..
Posted by aloha888 at December 16,2007 07:16

有小林呀
不過被淹沒在下面一長串的名單中
Other Grade C guys interchangeable with the ones above include Drake Britton, Caleb Clay, Jeff Corsaletti, Carlos Fernendez Oliva, Devern Hansack, Brock Huntzinger, Kris Johnson, Hunter Jones, George Kottaras, T.J. Large, Che-Hsuan Lin, Adam Mills, Jason Place, Chad Province, Anthony Rizzo, Jon Still, Mark Wagner.
Posted by Larsanderson at December 16,2007 22:21

這樣幹爺的罪有少一點點..

Oh c'mon, he cheated AND he sucked.

Devern Hansack is a prospect???

還有,搞不懂為什麼Brandon Moss會被降級. 他原本B+太高了沒錯,但是降了整整到C級我覺得對他很不公平. 他在AAA打了一個不錯的球季,然後在MLB的這杯咖啡沒有看起來很離譜.

他再爛會比Eric Hinske爛嗎?
Posted by Ironcheffie at December 17,2007 01:43
24 歲,在小聯盟打滾了五六年,3A 繳出尚可的 OPS 0.834,很難令人太興奮。看看 Sickels 對 B 跟 C 的定義,Moss 排在 C+ 不合理嗎? 有多少球隊認為 Moss 會是未來的 regular? 或許機會不是沒有,但小了點,還不至於排到 B-。
Posted by Bubble at December 17,2007 11:20
請教Bubble大兩個問題:
1.請問您贊成Twins開的條件Ellsbury+Buchholz去換Santana這筆交易嗎?為什麼?(我想看Bubble大的主觀意見)

2.我對橋牌有很深後的喜愛,但是我沒有厲害到像您那種程度,而且我也沒有partner,請問您知道台北有專門的橋牌俱樂部可以讓我小練身手的地方嗎?(我要那種不用錢或是超便宜而且不要等級太高每次被痛宰的那種)
Posted by 小天 at December 17,2007 11:36
我在前一篇關於 Santana 的裡面有寫:

就算是 Clay Buchholz + Jacoby Ellsbury,我還是會咬著牙,忍痛拿去交易來 Johan Santana。

或許我在不同的場合也提過不想換 Buchholz 也說不定。不過,若是別隊沒有更好的組合,紅襪沒有必要去加碼。

關於橋牌,其實我有一段時間沒打了。以前是在學校跟同學們玩的。橋牌有個固定的搭檔,會比較有意思。若你願意在網路上玩,下面是好地方

http://www.bridgebase.com/

若是覺得要面對面玩才有意思,或許就直接去國際橋藝中心,我想你若要加入什麼橋社,在那邊大概能找到一些答案。
Posted by Bubble at December 17,2007 12:01

24 歲,在小聯盟打滾了五六年,3A 繳出尚可的 OPS 0.834,很難令人太興奮。看看 Sickels 對 B 跟 C 的定義,Moss 排在 C+ 不合理嗎? 有多少球隊認為 Moss 會是未來的 regular? 或許機會不是沒有,但小了點,還不至於排到 B-。


去年是他的age 23 season, puts up .834 line in AAA.

為什麼他22歲在AA打.797 OPS的grade會是B+, 但是被搬到AAA的OPS是.834會被降一整級?

最好笑的是他前面還排了一堆Lancaster-produced stats的打者.
Posted by Ironcheffie at December 18,2007 08:23
一堆? 我看到的只有 Lars Anderson 跟 Aaron Bates. Lars 年輕多了,不需要比較。要說有問題,也就 Aaron Bates。Bates 的優勢是年輕了半歲,只打了一年半的小聯盟。他的成績可以拿來跟去年的 Brandon Moss 比,而你也可以看到,Bates 今年的評價不如去年的 Moss。若明年 Bates 也只打出像今年 Moss 的成績,你再看看他是不是也變成 C+。

Moss 在九月已經滿廿四歲。成績看起來好像是升了一級,卻又有進步,但問題是這個進步的程度,對於一個滿廿四歲的選球,是否足夠?還是他大概就是目前這樣了?若 Moss 再年輕個兩歲,他的排名可能就是 B+,甚至 A-。當然,有可能 Moss 只是剛好長得比較慢,將來會長成明星球員。只不過目前這個階段,只能照一般的情況來評估。

順帶一提,昨天洋基的部份也出來。前幾名包括

1 Joba Chamberlain, RHP, Grade A
2 Jose Tabata, OF, Grade B+
3 Ian Kennedy, RHP, Grade B+
4 Alan Horne, RHP, Grade B
5 Austin Jackson, OF, Grade B-

若 Phil Hughes 能排,應該也是 Grade A。在 Santana 的 Trade rumor 中,洋基不願出 Hughes+Cabrera+Kennedy, Cabrera 不至於好過 B,等於是洋基不願出到 A, B+, B。相較地,紅襪願意出的 Ellsbury (A-), Lowrie (A-), Masteron (B), 算是蠻有競爭力。
Posted by Bubble at December 18,2007 09:06

Brandon MOss did have a much higer strikeout rate this season(148K/493AB) in AAA than last season(108K/508AB) in AA. I think there are some concerns that he may have problems to make contact.
Posted by eric at December 18,2007 21:34